I was meaning no offense and I understand about wanting as much info as possible and I encourage that. I was just saying that it looks like most people have stated the same thing about how best to clean... It looks like vinegar isn't the preferable method... I mean if you have found a method that works for you then by all means continue to use it but these guys have been doing this a long time and if you are just starting then please try their advice first because they have already been through the trial and error phase and I would hate for any more stuff to get messed up because of the wrong method being used...( I hope that was written coherently as I just woke up and saw your post)The reason I post on multiple forums is I want to get as much information as possible.