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    I was reading that there's a difference I right handed kamisori blades and left handed. My concern is honing and angles how they differ and are there different honing techniques.
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    IM looking into Buying a Kanenaga(Mizuike kobo) kamisori. And I need honing info
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    Default Kanenaga(Mizuike kobo)

    Any important info on this brand razor? Especially honing there's alert handed one also what's the difference especially in honing
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    There are left and right handed Kamisori, left handed ones are very rare... they are exactly opposite but the honing techniques are exactly the same,,,

    Here is a Vid I did some time back that I tried to do entirely in English, using basic simple techniques, but if you listen I give quite a few tips also


    Honing Videos - gssixgun



    You will note in that thread that I mention Left handed Kamisori and even found a Pic of one

    One thing to be VERY aware of here, Kamisori are very different from western razors, and if this razor has never been set up before you are in for a rough time.. They are very easy to maintain once they have been set up, and very easy to wreck if you have never set a bevel on one before...




    Mod Note: I merged your threads you only need one and this will keep all the info in one spot, Thanks
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    Just saw a honing on a kamisori by Iwasaki Mr. something or another on you tube. Video was a little over 2 min and he didn't do the ( x and 1 ) technique. He did a rolling x with the same number of strokes on each side.
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    Yeah that's what it looks like but his stroke on the stamped side is shortened so in effect more honing happens on the non stamped side. Don't for one minute think you can mimic him if you haven't done it before. Best to stick to a formula that does less work on the stamped side.
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    Ok so just 4 reassurance the stamped side is hardened like high carbon and the non stamped is iron. So how does the life of the razor hold up? (how Maney years) and how thick is the hardened side? (1/16") also the stropping. Since the shape of the blade is so much different than wedge shaped or hollow ground. if the life of the razor is shorter term than our normal grinds which kamisori is the most cost efficient, and which is the cheapest acceptable quality kamisori? And the only other question I have is honing what grit home would you need to finishing polish the edge? Is 12k ok or do u need a 30k? How would you get this type of razor "sharper" than our everyday full hollow ground? Thanks ahead of time by the way.
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    What do u guys think of Kanenaga(Mizuike kobo)
    Brand kamisori razors? Good or no? And is under 150.00 USD a fair price for one that is new? (that price includes shipping and handling)
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    The hard steel back is just a sliver of steel less than 1/16 "usually.
    The design does not cause any longevity issues. Just strop like normal.
    I think the Kanenaga razors are ok quality for the price.
    12 - 30k will work for honing. Getting a razor sharper depends on a bunch of things & not just the grind.
    Let your face & pocket decide.

    I've honed only 2 ~ one was straight & honed up quite nicely the other a little warped & took more work. I would try straightening one like that in future as the soft iron would allow for it. They are made of Hitachi Yellow steel which is the cheapest Hitachi steel usually reserved for home use knives etc but properly heat treated it works well enough.
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    Another question I have is that I've heard that kamisoris need to be "set up" what's that mean exactly? Is it just a reference to setting the bevel or something else all together?
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