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    Thought id add an old vid of Ryoichi Mizuochi san honing, a bit off topic but a great video of Shigeyoshi Iwasakis successor honing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel View Post
    I think what iwasaki said was cleared up long ago in another thread
    I'm not sure to which thread you are referring; but unless by "long ago" you mean something around a month ago, the merging of the joining/jointing concept with Iwasaki has been ongoing until as recently as then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    the merging of the joining/jointing concept with Iwasaki has been ongoing until as recently as then.
    I wonder who started that whole thing, they two different concepts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    I wonder who started that whole thing, they two different concepts.
    "Killing the edge" goes back to the old days of the "Restore Chat Room" it was an accepted practice after the Buffers or Sanding at the bevel restoration stages.

    Then the next mention that moved it into the realm of "Honing" was Bart and the Coticule guys, and even then it was at the bevel setting stage

    That painful vid from the Shapton guy moved it into the high grit ranges using some ideas from tool honing

    After that the Iwasaki misrepresentation has moved the idea into normal honing regimes

    What is being talked about now is an adaptation of Cross-honing, as a way to eliminate deeper stria and again is old news..

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    The original post, 2 years ago, (Hone a Straight Edge or to a Straight Edge, and Side Stroke, Side Honing Revisited) had nothing to do with Iwasaki and the translation of his writings, other than it was an impetus to the question asked in the first post, about side honing.

    The Jim Rion correction was posted in the original thread, 2 years ago,

    The Iwasaki/jointing connection was brought up and the translation was well agreed upon and settled in that thread, 2 years ago. It was not a big deal and really, only a small side issue in the thread.

    What Iwasaki said, meant or how Jim translated it, had nothing to do with the thread, which was a question, asking for Opinions about, side honing. Only one person has continued to beat that drum for 2 years…

    It was not an issue then, and still is not an issue today. As I said, this same information was posted in that thread 2 years ago, and most who posted in the thread agreed on the revised translation, others could care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    It was not an issue then, and still is not an issue today.
    I feel this issue was well worth bringing up... again.
    There is still plenty of misinformation on youtube.

    You've only got to look at Gasman's question to see that this topic is not clear in everyone's mind:
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