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    does anyone know if you can lap the shapton 16 with the norton flatting stone? if not what grit sand paper would you use? thanks

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    While I have not used the Norton flatting stone, nor for that matter the Shaptons yet, reports so far have indicated the Norton Flattening stone is rather coarse and leaves a rough surface on the hones. I'd suggest a quality 220 grit wet/dry paper instead. I recall Chris Moss used wet/dry for a while with his Shaptons but soon fell under the spell of the GDLP. With the 16K and 30K in particular, lapping is done more for cleaning the surface of the hone rather than flattening it so you would not want something too aggressive or you'll just wear your hones away too soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripman View Post
    does anyone know if you can lap the shapton 16 with the norton flatting stone? if not what grit sand paper would you use? thanks
    I am wondering that too! I'm just about sold on the 16K as an alternative to paste/strop for a good finishing edge, but the price tag on the lap for it is a bit intimidating. (I recently discussed my desire for a 12-16K in greater detail on this thread: link)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiblur View Post
    Snap, I have been on the fence lately about whether I need one, but Lynn, you sold me
    Yeesh, I'm glad I got my 16K before they're sold out! Now you guys buying these Shapton Ceramic on Glass Stones know about the free shipping offer on these stones only from HERE, don't you? It's been a great company to deal with and fast free shipping can't be beat.

    Chris L

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisl View Post
    Yeesh, I'm glad I got my 16K before they're sold out! Now you guys buying these Shapton Ceramic on Glass Stones know about the free shipping offer on these stones only from HERE, don't you? It's been a great company to deal with and fast free shipping can't be beat.

    Chris L
    Many online stores, this one included, don't ship to Canada. But for those of you in the US who can take advantage of that deal, kudos!

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    I wouldn't use the norton fs. it is probably a lot softer than the shapton, so it would wear out the norton, and the shapton would be roughed up.
    Better use a DMT 8C if you don't fancy buying a shapton DGLP

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    Around the knife groups we don't use coarse stones to flatten the 16k much. In the sessions I have been in with one we used the DMT 320 to get it flat than hit it with a DMT 8k plate. Seemed to work the best for our needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwarvenChef View Post
    Around the knife groups we don't use coarse stones to flatten the 16k much. In the sessions I have been in with one we used the DMT 320 to get it flat than hit it with a DMT 8k plate. Seemed to work the best for our needs
    Sorry for the noobness, by what is a DMT ###? I see the abbreviation a lot. Thanks!

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    DMT are various types of Diamond bench stones, in the states they have more options in style but the results are the same. You can get one here http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...05&cat=1,43072
    I use my 325/1200 to true my other stones norton 4/8k Chinese 12K......

    Kind regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightLad View Post
    Sorry for the noobness, by what is a DMT ###? I see the abbreviation a lot. Thanks!
    Hi NightLad. No apologies necessary; click on the following link for just one retail outlet for: DMT Products

    The D8C is widely used for lapping natural and most manufactured whetstones. It's regarded as being 325 grit. This would be too coarse to use for razor honing in and of itself, but excells as a flat lapping plate and is inexpensive. Although it looks like a no frills cheap hunk of metal, it's a quality rugged product.

    Chris L

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