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    Default 3/8 h/g vs 8/8 h/ground blade

    which one is hard to hone and why?

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    IME the smaller blade. I haven't honed many that small but the light weight and close geometry seemed to make them more difficult for me. I find it easier to use correct pressure on a larger blade is one thing.
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    Agreed. The smaller is much harder. The geometry is much more difficult to maintain. You can really torque the edge on a larger razor but you can't on the smaller one. Also, taping a 3/8 razor, especially a wedge, can be a nightmare due to the edge of the tape extending so far onto the belly of the blade.

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    I have had more trouble with a 3/8 blade than any 8/8 blade I have tried. I think just torquing the razor's blade face on such a smaller level can make tuning in edge sections a little trickier.

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    I don't know that one is harder than the other, but I have to pay more attention with smaller blades.

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    For me the smaller blades require more skill to reach the same level of honing quality. Any uneven pressure exagerates rounding off the edge.

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    Imo, Larger blades are much easier to handle on a hone that smaller blades. combined with the fact that I don't like shaving with smaller blades, I just decided that I would not hone (or restore) anything smaller than 11/16.
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    The smaller blade is more difficult for me. Keeping the proper weight distribution, edge/spine, is the problem area. It is much easier to " stub" the edge into the hone.
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    Default Sham listen to Sham

    i thank you everyone who respond to this thread and thought will better i post the reason why i post this question.
    Recently i had 6 razors to hone. No one was at home and i decide to head hone them up and get job done.
    5 of the them were 4 7/8,1 is 8/8 and last one 3 /8.
    i checked the blades and start to work.
    1 st i did finish 8/8 h/g(in my mind i thought this is the hardest one) lets make this one first.
    Next i honed 4 7/8 blades .
    Total time i spend almost 1.45 minutes.
    Wasn't bad at all. i was taking my time and enjoyed honing.
    Now i said ok i am done and will come back to this 3/8 later .
    then i decide oh NOOOOOO very small blade hollow ground will take me less then 15 minutes let me finish and i wont get dirty later.
    I start to hone this little 3/8 hollow ground blade.
    everything was fine. i set bevel 1k shapton then i moved my natural stones.Blade was almost shave ready condition on japanese stones and i decide my last touch for finishing the edge.
    To use lovely light green Escher.
    stone is ok size 7 by 1 1/8 .
    i start make my strokes after 5 stroke OPPS I HIT THE EDGE STRAIGHT TO THE STONE ???
    himmmmmmm.
    i thought what was that?
    Ok i said lets go back to 1k and start all over ACCIDENTS Happens.
    Now i didn't change anything from my previous honing routine.
    SET bevel and move on until Escher.
    ok same Routine start to make my last finishing strokes . i do take every pressure out in my last strokes.
    All off a sudden i hit the edge straight to the stone again ?
    What happen ? what is wrong with me? when i flip the blade i flip the blade more then i should and make strokes edge touching the stone?
    Now this made me Mad.
    i am getting crazy now.
    i stood up walk around then i thought something wrong with my hands.
    May be i am getting old and my hands are shaking???
    went front of the mirror and checked out my hands ? they seems to ok.
    No shaking .
    Ok what it is then ?
    i am still Mad at myself. Open another Thiers blade just to look at it . Used so much force cracked the handle?
    Ok what is wrong with me?
    Now i am out of my mind?
    (i used to smoke. in similar situations i would pick up cig and smoke and calm myself down)
    I don't smoke anymore.
    i sit down and try to calm myself ?
    In my mind i am getting just crazy?
    questions i have to ask myself?
    This is someone else blade with this speed i will have nothing left from this blade?
    Next why i am doing exact same mistakes twice in a Row?
    Then seems like someone told me Listen to Sham?
    this made me think?
    Go head turn on the computer and check your own honing and see what you will see.
    i did.
    i watched the video and i mention couple times
    IN LAST STAGE OF HONING TAKE YOUR TIME , DON'T HURRY UP. IF YOU MAKE MISTAKE YOU SHOULD GO BACK ALL WAY TO 1K.
    I knew this but i was overconfident Person. i was thinking i have done this so many times . will do it again.
    After video i did calm down more. took Blade to 1k and start to hone.
    i finished the edge an Escher test the blade .
    Smile come to my face.
    was happy at the end.
    Now i think if you do hone small size blades and don't think it is easier then rest . they are all challenging. Take your time and get job done.
    i spend more time to finish 3/8 blade then i honed 5 more larger heavy blades.
    Lesson Learned.
    hope this will help some of you.
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    Yup, that's exactly why I have to pay more attention on small razors. If I don't, on my away stroke, I've dug the edge into the hone. For whatever reason, when it happened to me, it was on the Naniwa 8k, and it takes a little slice out of the hone. I corrrect it in the same way too. Go extra slow and pay extra attention.

    I don't know what it is, but whether on the hones, on the strop, or on my face, it's easiest to loose the angle and mess something up with a smaller razor. This is exactly why I don't recommend anything under 5/8 to a new shaver.

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