Page 1 of 10 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 91
Like Tree132Likes

Thread: Re-etched Wade and Butcher Celebrated FBUs

  1. #1
    Senior Member ScienceGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    1,501
    Thanked: 949

    Default Re-etched Wade and Butcher Celebrated FBUs

    I just saw this today, and Zak may have seen one some time ago. Just thought everyone should be made aware that these are floating out there.

    It's a Wade and Butcher Celebrated For Barbers Use, with what is clearly a reground blade that has had a modern etching put on it. I'm 99% sure this is a real Wade and Butcher, and 90% sure that this razor was at one point actually a legitimate Celebrated FBU, but the etching is NOT original. That is a very modern typeface, and the proportions are all wrong, as well as the fact that it does not look like the type of etching which would have been used in the period.

    Name:  WB FBU re etch.jpg
Views: 587
Size:  61.1 KB

  2. The Following 16 Users Say Thank You to ScienceGuy For This Useful Post:

    32t (05-26-2016), Baxxer (05-09-2016), BobH (05-09-2016), criswilson10 (05-11-2016), Denvernoob (05-27-2016), dinnermint (05-09-2016), Ernie1980 (05-09-2016), hrfdez (08-07-2016), markbignosekelly (05-09-2016), MikeT (05-15-2016), Phrank (05-10-2016), puketui41 (05-11-2016), Substance (05-09-2016), Tarkus (05-09-2016), tintin (05-12-2016), WW243 (05-10-2016)

  3. #2
    Senior Member celticcrusader's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Merthyr Tydfil South Wales UK.
    Posts
    3,794
    Thanked: 955

    Default

    Good spot I saw a western style Iwasaki also etched with the his signature being offered up for sale by a well known Swedish seller of Japanese razors, I did the right thing and sent him a PM pointing this out I'm not sure he did anything about this as he did not respond.
    Phrank and Rachim like this.
    “Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there, and finding it.”

  4. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    NYC, NY
    Posts
    1,277
    Thanked: 130

    Default

    These sorts need to be treated like lepers in the community and called out under the spotlight... They rip off new collectors and depending on whether they ever get better than horrible at faking these, potentially devalue our investments
    FAL likes this.

  5. #4
    Senior Member ScienceGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    1,501
    Thanked: 949

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kcb5150 View Post
    These sorts need to be treated like lepers in the community and called out under the spotlight... They rip off new collectors and depending on whether they ever get better than horrible at faking these, potentially devalue our investments
    You have to be careful because, like anything fake in a collecting community, the item for sale is not always faked by the seller. It's important not to start witch hunts. But the information should be out there clear for detecting them.
    Tarkus, BobH, Hanlon and 2 others like this.

  6. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    NYC, NY
    Posts
    1,277
    Thanked: 130

    Default

    Well, you can always politely inform them.. If someone sold me something as x and it is a facsimile of x I would be grateful to know

  7. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    NYC, NY
    Posts
    1,277
    Thanked: 130

    Default

    If someone is a known restorer and doing it I say fair game... Doing it and NOT admitting it... Or using extremely vague language.
    Last edited by kcb5150; 05-09-2016 at 07:28 PM.

  8. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    NYC, NY
    Posts
    1,277
    Thanked: 130

    Default

    The area where ppl will have to more more on guard are masonic wedges I would think.

  9. #8
    Senior Moderator JimmyHAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    32,559
    Thanked: 11012

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuy View Post
    I just saw this today, and Zak may have seen one some time ago. Just thought everyone should be made aware that these are floating out there.

    That is a very modern typeface, and the proportions are all wrong, as well as the fact that it does not look like the type of etching which would have been used in the period.

    Name:  WB FBU re etch.jpg
Views: 587
Size:  61.1 KB
    Not the clearest photo, but here is an original example for comparison ;

    Name:  barbersonly2.jpg
Views: 479
Size:  45.5 KB
    Attachment 236318
    mainaman, 32t, Tarkus and 4 others like this.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

  10. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to JimmyHAD For This Useful Post:

    Geezer (05-09-2016), Substance (05-09-2016), Tarkus (05-09-2016), WW243 (05-10-2016)

  11. #9
    Senior Member Ernie1980's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,551
    Thanked: 264

    Default

    Thank you for posting this! I like to think of myself as fairly knowledgeable but that would have fooled me. I guess I have much to learn still...

  12. #10
    I used Nakayamas for my house mainaman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    8,456
    Thanked: 2501
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    The original FBU has the text etched in the steel, the example in the OP looks like laser engraved or acid etched stamp. Very different outcome to the two processes. The fonts are indeed way out of proportion and in the wrong position because of that.
    Martin103 likes this.
    Stefan

Page 1 of 10 12345 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •