Thread: Really from the 1780's?

Here is a post that may shed a little light on it.
By the looks of the ebay razor it is a Shepherd
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/fo...-shepherd.html

Originally Posted by MileMarker60

Here is a post that may shed a little light on it.
By the looks of the ebay razor it is a Shepherd
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/fo...-shepherd.html

Excellent post! That seems to be introvertible proof that it is indeed a John shepherd, like you previously stated. I take my hat off to you!

Regards,
Neil

PS: the date still seems a bit questionable as there was a John Shepherd, razor manufacturer, listed at Hollis Croft in Baines Gazetteer of Sheffield for 1822. Joseph Elliots were at Hollis Croft too, and there is an instance of a silver/cutlery marking of "wolf under a crown" (no pic, unfortunately) attributed to Elliots at one time - although this may have been a typo, it poses an interesting possibility that Elliots owned the mark for a while (they owned many other makers marks).

Everything about it points to ~1790, IMO.

Lummus identifies John Shepherd's dating as 1770-1795. He even has a picture of a Shepherd in his Article from 1922, also with the Crown & WOLF

1780 is an adress perhaps?

Thanks for the info, y'all.

I think I'll let this one go, but find a better condition Wolf down the line.

Further to my post #12 above, I found a picture of a razor with Joseph Elliot marked on the tang and the Shepherd 'WOLF' under a crown trademark on the blade. So - it wasn't a typo and it appears that Lummus had not come across this example, which leaves the date debatable.



There are more pictures of this razor in the SRP razor clubs forum under 'silver steel'.

Regards,
Neil

I have a few old ones - in fact I just posted one on the bay -
a good rule of thumb is if there is no tang, it is pre 1800. That razor has real tortoise shell scales, and if they are in good shape, I would hold on to them. The blades are easy to find, nice scales are not. The razor I put up has just the faintest showing of the beginning of a tang which is the next step and brings the date closer to 1800. The blade from this thread has a bit of a tail nub which I have never seen. It's usually either no tail or a monkey nub which is just a bit bigger. But just the fact that these razors could have been used by the revolutionary army (1775 to 1783) here has always amazed me. Whenever I see one of these razors, I look for names and a date scratched onto the scales. Could you imagine fighting in that war? Ok... I got carried away. I love old razors

hier is a Shephard from me. Original restored...A grest Razor