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    Default No clue, no microscope, first honing, shave test average

    Yesterday I honed my first real blade. It seemed rather sharp, so I just honed it on the coticule, first with slurry, then diluting it. I must have done about 200 laps. The blade didnt feel that sharp on the thumb; it did dig in, but required a bit of pressure. In comparison, the blade hi_bud_gl honed for me will slice in without me even noticing unless I remove the blade from the thumb and use fingers from the other hand to spread the area open.
    I did a few dozen more laps on the C w/ water and the blade felt marginally sharper. It did shave wet arm hear effortlessly. It also popped standing hair, some of them (not all), with a ping sound. It felt rough and seemed to pull a little on the hair and ripped / sawed it rather than sliced / split it.
    My arm started to feel tired so I replaced the razor and hone with the keyboard and mouse of my PC and logged into SRP. Posted a few stupid comments and scared people in the chat room away. That made me feel better so I started to strop the hell out of the razor on a red and green pasted paddle strop. It felt even smoother on the skin then, so I decided to put it away for a shave test this morning. And I quickly put my sleeve back down before the wife notices that there's hair missing from my arm.
    Test shaving it this morning, it felt a little rough but not as bad as the "shave ready" razors I bought at the end of last year. I went WTG and XTG (and ATG on the cheeks only) and got a pretty close shave. I had razor burn for half an hour to an hour and that's it (I have sensitive skin).

    Any input / comments? Doesnt it sound like I didnt hone it enough? Like I polished with the coticule but did not get to the very edge during the CWW stage?

    Does the edge have a smile or is it just all over the place?
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    I say go back to light slurry passes for a while until those arm hair passes pop easier. If it pulls your (relatively) thinner arm hair, then it will really yank on that coarse facial hair.

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    sounds like you might have bevel issues. go back to a rougher stone and reset the bevel, then work your way back up.

    200 laps is pretty excessive. i only have to do 10 or 20 when I get to that stage, you need to build a proper foundation or all the polishing in the world won't get you anywhere.

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    The razor got sharper, that means your hone/strop removed metal at the edge. I think expecting to match the edge of your best razors on the first try is a bit of an overestimation.

    As to how to progress further, that really depends on what the problem with the edge is. My guess would be it's your honing skill. Magnification may be quite useful.

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    Looking at the photos it is hard to tell but it appears to me that the edge has a slight frown beginning in the last third going towards the heel. Not quite a frown but a tendency in that direction. Do yourself a favor and pick up one of those cheap hand held microscopes or at least a 30X eye loupe such as these found here.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

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    Microscope will be great idea Jimmy is right.
    Please check the edge if you just used 200 laps on Coticle it will not sharpen the edge.You have to set the bevel with lower grit hones or use your lovely DMT'S .YOU DO have to set bevel first.I assume dmt's already brake in .
    1 st use
    dmt 1200 grit extra fine 50 laps
    belgian blue side 50 laps
    dmt 8000 grit EE FINE 80 laps no pressure please
    go to coticle belgian 50 laps
    chro02 strop 30-50 laps
    strop and check the blade
    Now laps shouldn't be exact numbers just check edge regualarly with your finger touch or hht ok.let us know result.
    Be patient and don't hurry up you will get there.

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    I saw that blade shape too. I thought it might have been a photo artifact.

    If it is a frown, it's pretty slight and shouldn't make that much of a difference. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Magnification may be quite useful.
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    microscopes
    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    Microscope will be great idea Jimmy is right.
    I think I get the idea

    Not that nobody never told me before

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    buy microscope ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    Microscope will be great idea Jimmy is right.
    Please check the edge if you just used 200 laps on Coticle it will not sharpen the edge.You have to set the bevel with lower grit hones or use your lovely DMT'S .YOU DO have to set bevel first.I assume dmt's already brake in .
    1 st use
    dmt 1200 grit extra fine 50 laps
    belgian blue side 50 laps
    dmt 8000 grit EE FINE 80 laps no pressure please
    go to coticle belgian 50 laps
    chro02 strop 30-50 laps
    strop and check the blade
    Now laps shouldn't be exact numbers just check edge regualarly with your finger touch or hht ok.let us know result.
    Be patient and don't hurry up you will get there.
    Ok, thank you again, I'll do as you said and we take it from there. I'm buying a microscope today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornelius View Post
    I'm buying a microscope today.
    I just bought a microscope online. Should be here some time next week.

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    that will resolve soooooooooooo many questions.

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