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    Default Do they kill the badger to get the fur?

    or shear it like a llama?

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    I doubt if he is going to sit still for the shave! They are fairly mean creatures, they may shear them, but somehow I doubt it.
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    Yes, they kill the badger. There is some information on the subject here:

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    Animals like badgers are usually leg trapped. Leg trapping is by some considered a very cruel and painful experience especially as trappers often only check the traps every other day. Most animals trying to escape either break the limb or dislocate hip or shoulder joint. Some animals free themselves by biting off the trapped limb leaving them seriously disabled.

    If they are primarily caught for food or pest control by an otherwise starving people would for some be more acceptable than if they are primarily caught for their furs.
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    Apparently in China they have a different view as to what is an allowable level of concern for an animal that is being used for the purposes of humankind. Here is a video of the processing of animals called "racoon dogs". They treat badgers the same way. Let me warn you in advance, this video may make you angry. This video may make you cry. This video may make you sick:

    A Shocking Look Inside Chinese Fur Farms

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    In the link I posted above, the fellow from Vulfix does indicate that the badgers are caught for meat, fur and to control their pestitude.

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    Compassion is a trait of Christian culture, you shouldnt be surprised when other cultures display none.
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    I have read that they eat badger in China. The harvesting of the fur is not the sole purpose. As far as cruelty, here in our kind Christian culture the way that cows, pigs, and chickens are treated to produce dinner is not very pretty either. Being a carnivore and a lover of badger brushes I don't concern myself with where the hair came from or the chicken in my sandwich or how either got there. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    I have read that they eat badger in China.
    I'm happy to know that. At least they don't get cought just for the fur.
    Also, I'm against animal hunting, if they're endangered species.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    Being a carnivore and a lover of badger brushes I don't concern myself with where the hair came from or the chicken in my sandwich or how either got there. YMMV.
    I love meat too and I love my Rooney badger brush, but I'm against animal cruelty. If an animal is going to die to supply food for the human kind, then that must be done the quickest and painless way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    Apparently in China they have a different view as to what is an allowable level of concern for an animal that is being used for the purposes of humankind. Here is a video of the processing of animals called "racoon dogs". They treat badgers the same way. Let me warn you in advance, this video may make you angry. This video may make you cry. This video may make you sick:

    A Shocking Look Inside Chinese Fur Farms
    I think I have seen part of this...don't really want to rewatch it. It is pretty horrible how they treat them. How hard is it to use a humane trap and shoot them or slit their throat? Or a trap that kills them quickly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    Animals like badgers are usually leg trapped. Leg trapping is by some considered a very cruel and painful experience especially as trappers often only check the traps every other day. Most animals trying to escape either break the limb or dislocate hip or shoulder joint. Some animals free themselves by biting off the trapped limb leaving them seriously disabled.

    If they are primarily caught for food or pest control by an otherwise starving people would for some be more acceptable than if they are primarily caught for their furs.
    I have heard that deer will chew their legs off to escape from these. I don't know if that is true, but I feel that the reality can't be much better...

    Quote Originally Posted by nun2sharp View Post
    Compassion is a trait of Christian culture, you shouldnt be surprised when other cultures display none.
    I don't know exactly what you mean by Christian culture, but if you think atheists etc. are not capable of compassion then you are wrong. You might just mean "European" for all I know though. Don't want to start a huge religious debate or anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    I'm happy to know that. At least they don't get cought just for the fur.
    Also, I'm against animal hunting, if they're endangered species.



    I love meat too and I love my Rooney badger brush, but I'm against animal cruelty. If an animal is going to die to supply food for the human kind, then that must be done the quickest and painless way possible.
    I appreciate this. I haven't eaten meat (except accidentally) for like 10 years, but I can see how it's not a big deal to do it, if done right. This includes killing them, not torturing them. Also don't burn down forests. Don't hunt to extinction. Etc. I still don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat because I can eat plants and be fine. I should try to track down where they are grown so that I won't be letting people profit from the aforementioned slash and burn method of deforestation. Easiest way I think to do this is visit my farmer's market. I barely eat vegetables though, I guess I live off mostly bread or something.

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