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    Quote Originally Posted by cudarunner View Post
    You said you had 'flattened' the Norton, how smooth is the surfaces? If they still feel anything like the sides of the stones, you need to keep lapping. Both of my 4/8's needed a lot of work on the 4K side, but the 8K smoothed out on both really quick.

    Just wondering? It never hurts to practice the 6 P's.

    When you fine tune your blade it should be a really nice shaver
    Glad i read this... I recently started honing and I have a King Icebear 1k and a Norton 4/8. I didnt "flatten my 4k side well enough I dont think. I drew a grid on it and lapped it on the flat counter with some 320 grit sandpaper and got it flat. Really strange though, the 4k feels more rough than my 1k!!. Not knowing I thought that it was just a "fast cutting" stone that would feel like that. So thank you, I need more work on the 4k to get it right. This explains my crappy shaves even off the 8k

    Any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    +1 on the Chromium oxide. However, I would not use it until you can get really comfortable shaves off the 8K. At that point, the paste becomes a help.
    If you use it to fudge over the fact that your 8K edge isn't good, it becomes a crutch.
    Please correct me if I am giving false info being as new to honing as I am. After my 8k I have been covering the stone in newspaper and doing about 10 laps on that and it seems to work really well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanreum1 View Post
    Glad i read this... I recently started honing and I have a King Icebear 1k and a Norton 4/8. I didnt "flatten my 4k side well enough I dont think. I drew a grid on it and lapped it on the flat counter with some 320 grit sandpaper and got it flat. Really strange though, the 4k feels more rough than my 1k!!. Not knowing I thought that it was just a "fast cutting" stone that would feel like that. So thank you, I need more work on the 4k to get it right. This explains my crappy shaves even off the 8k

    Any advice?
    When I got my first Norton 4/8K I used 220 Wet-n-Dry and the countertop and while it did work OK I highly recommend spending the money on a DMT 325 and two stone holders.

    DMT 8 Dia-Sharp Continuous Diamond Coarse - 325 - $46.99 :

    Steelex D1091 Sharpening Stone Holder - $15.99 :

    The box that the Norton comes in will work but the stone holders work so much better and the DMT will allow you to keep the surface level and leave a slurry if you want to use it (I use slurry) on the 1K, 4K, 8K and on the 12K, I finish with clear water. The slurry multiplies the cutting action.

    Here's a good video that my friend Glen did about lapping. Pay close attention to not only what he shows, but what he says.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c4hqYwUNl4


    Notice that he lapped both the 4 and 8K's. I would also advise you to lap your 1K, not only to level it but to smooth it.

    One other thing; Honing a razor and sharpening A KNIFE are as different as Black and White! I was a meat cutter for several years and I thought that honing a razor would be a piece of cake. Boy was I wrong! I had to learn entirely new and very different muscle memory. Let alone a very gentle touch!

    If all else fails, please consider sending your blade out to a Pro for honing. This will give you a reference point for when you hone your blade yourself.

    I've done this and it really can be a very useful tool.

    I hope this has been of some help.

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    I went back to the 4k, made a slurry and re-honed through 8k. Since then I have gotten two very good shaves in a row (stropping as well of coarse). The shaves were as good as if I had used my shavette. So all-in-all, I'm pretty happy with it. Thanks again to everyone for all the help! I will keep using it and practicing with other razors as well.

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    There are also a variety of grits for any number grit... i bought a wusthoff 3000 8000... and the 8000 is more coarse than my 1600 grit other unreadable name stone... and the 3000 is coarser than my 800grit king stone... dunno if this is the case here... but it is a possibility... all stones have been lapped a few times...

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