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    This stone is from before 1980 and is glued with Colofonium. See last picture under the stamp.
    Between 1980 and 1986 there have been no Coticules produced.
    From 1986 to 1998, Burton Rox's did glue non-natural combos with Araldite. It was the intention to get a thin bond line. The coticules were glued to Rouge du Salm. This stone is much redder than the BBW.
    After 1998 "Ardennes Coticule" glued non-natural combos with epoxy which has been thickened with a filler.

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    The BBW side is nice and thick. Looks like 3/4" of BBW. I have an 8" x 2" x 1/2" BBW myself. If there weren't yellow coticules around to compare to, perhaps BBW would be appreciated more as a waterstone? It sure is a fine finisher for Knives. It's slow though.

    My options for Knives, though I never use every stone:
    Coarse Silicon Carbide > Fine Silicon Carbide > Soft Arkansas > Fine Aluminum Oxide > Hard Arkansas > Surgical Black Arkansas or Translucent > BBW

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    Thanks Henk.

    Thats very interesting re: the colofonium - or colophony as we call it over here - as an adhesive.

    For those not in the know, colophony is a resin derived from pine trees. Violinists use it as rosin. Many people are allergic to it, unfortunately it is found in a great number of household products, even in the adhesive on postage stamps.

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    Thats very interesting re: the colofonium - or colophony as we call it over here - as an adhesive.

    Thank God, I thought we were talking about the head of HHS.

    My first thought was, Oh No, now they are screwing with regulating Coticules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    Thanks Henk.

    Thats very interesting re: the colofonium - or colophony as we call it over here - as an adhesive.

    For those not in the know, colophony is a resin derived from pine trees. Violinists use it as rosin. Many people are allergic to it, unfortunately it is found in a great number of household products, even in the adhesive on postage stamps.

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    Didn't the Bartmeister post that Ardennes used some beeswax based stuff to glue coticules to whichever base ? IIRC ........

    Edit; He did say that but in reference to time past, not what Ardennes is doing ....... Cracking Coticule - HELP
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    Beeswax is too soft and melt easily. See picture in Musee du Coticule
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Didn't the Bartmeister post that Ardennes used some beeswax based stuff to glue coticules to whichever base ? IIRC ........

    Edit; He did say that but in reference to time past, not what Ardennes is doing ....... Cracking Coticule - HELP
    I think that Bart is confusing colophony with beeswax filler.

    You have to heat the colophony resin to use it, to make it flow and coat the surfaces, then when it cools it sets hard again. It can be remelted.

    Rob from Ardennes told me that they mix (or mixed - can't remember) beeswax with the dust from sawing the coticules and used this to plug small holes, cracks etc - it is just a soft filling agent, not a glue.

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    what does NOS means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelajemi View Post
    what does NOS means?
    New Old Stock - Really means in an un-opened un-used condition of an item that is no longer produced

    On here it can also mean in "Mint" condition

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