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    Hey all,

    Im sure this has been asked before but I wanted to get updated info with the newer Naniwa stones included.

    Im looking to get a full set of synthetic hones (preferably all form one brand) to go from bevel set to finished and ready for the naturals and/or a strop.

    Id like it to be as cheep as possible without having to upgrade later and without sacrificing edge quality.

    In an answer id like to see a specific list of grits needed, the brand and the model. I was thinking about purchasing from https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com but if there is a better source id love to know!

    any additional info is appreciated

    thanks in advance

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    A commonly suggested progression is the Naniwa Specialty hones, which used to be the SuperStones. They seem to be identical except by name so get whichever you prefer by price.

    For a bevel setter, replace the Specialty 1k with the Naniwa Chosera 1k. Trust me, it is worth it if you think that you will be honing any number of razors that need new bevels. The Specialty 1k works, but the Chosera is much better. The edge lives or dies off the bevel setting so you don't want to scrimp there.

    Recommended progression options are:
    1k, 3k, 8k, 12k

    1k, 5k, 8k, 12k

    Between these two, I consider the first to be better but both have been used and recommended frequently.

    I would prefer:
    1k, 2k, 5k, 8k, 12k
    because I consider it critical to get out the 1k scratches and the 2k does a better job.

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    Id go with what Utopian said. Hes hit the nail on the head.

    I ended up with 1k corsera, 2k, 3k, 5k, 8k, 12k all in specialty stones. And as far as ordering from that place, they want you happy so if a stone dont feel right or if you want to trade for another grit, they stand behind it. I traded in a 10k for the 3k. No questions asked. I had even took a sharpie to the side of the 10k marking it 10k so i could see it better and that was not an issue with them.

    They have some sets too but if a set isnt the stones you want, call them and they will.work with you to get what you want. Good luck learning honing. Its fun, time consuming and frustrating at first, then with time it becomes more natural and you wont know why you were having a hard time in the beginning.
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    Well, since you mention using synths to be ready for naturals, I will say that a Suehiro 1k/3k synth combo is a really great set-up for a coticule from my experience, followed by a Welsh purple slate. Really all you need IMO.

    I haven't experience with the Naniwa line, but obviously, they're well received here. As for Sharpening Supplies, I find them to be a good company to deal with. Great about returns for instance.
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    I personally purchased Shapton kuromaku stones, 1k,2k,5k,8k and a used 12k naniwa.
    Bought all stones from Amazon and they are for the money awesome stones. Really affordable, after doing some reading and looking this about the best deal I could find getting all the same brand. I like the speed at which they work and the finish produced. These are the Japanese version of the Shapton pros IIRC. Great suggestions so far from these members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejmolitor37 View Post
    I personally purchased Shapton kuromaku stones, 1k,2k,5k,8k and a used 12k naniwa.
    Bought all stones from Amazon and they are for the money awesome stones. Really affordable, after doing some reading and looking this about the best deal I could find getting all the same brand. I like the speed at which they work and the finish produced. These are the Japanese version of the Shapton pros IIRC. Great suggestions so far from these members.
    I do have the Shapton Pro 1k, 1.5k, and 2k and have used the full series. I can agree that the 1k Pro is a perfectly good bevel setter and I would prefer it over the Specialty/SuperStone 1k. I like the lower grit Pros but liked the higher grit ones less. My rate of having to go back and re-hone was about 2-3 out of 10 with the entire Pro series. If the Kuromaku hones are comparable to the Pros, then I think the lower grit hones he listed, followed by the Naniwa Specialty/SuperStone 12k is a perfectly viable option.
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    The Kuromaku stones are the same as pros in performance. Might be a slightly different formula for the pro series for the US market, but from what I gather they perform the same. I'd need more time with the mid & upper end of the series before I gave an more informed opinion, but I haven't a complaint with them so far.
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    What happened to the classic Norton 4/8 combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportcopper View Post
    What happened to the classic Norton 4/8 combo?
    The Norton set are still the meat and potatoes of my personal honing kit. A lot of folks don't like soaking the 4k, some don't like the feel of it. And I think many pick up a higher grit finisher, then end up shelving the Norton 4/8 in favor of the new brand.

    I'm probably an oddball in that I have another full set of stones, but still defer to the tried & true Norton kit for the vast majority of my honing. Aside from needing a little soak it hasn't done me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    A commonly suggested progression is the Naniwa Specialty hones, which used to be the SuperStones. They seem to be identical except by name so get whichever you prefer by price.

    For a bevel setter, replace the Specialty 1k with the Naniwa Chosera 1k. Trust me, it is worth it if you think that you will be honing any number of razors that need new bevels. The Specialty 1k works, but the Chosera is much better. The edge lives or dies off the bevel setting so you don't want to scrimp there.

    Recommended progression options are:
    1k, 3k, 8k, 12k

    1k, 5k, 8k, 12k

    Between these two, I consider the first to be better but both have been used and recommended frequently.

    I would prefer:
    1k, 2k, 5k, 8k, 12k
    because I consider it critical to get out the 1k scratches and the 2k does a better job.
    I think this pretty much echos my thought. I have not used a wide variety of synthetic hones and soon this will be my progression.
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