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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhammer View Post
    Guys, I'm finding this thread most interesting from the standpoint I just picked up a Chinese stone myself, and I wondered if it was any good.

    Here is the link to my ebay purchase. Did I just throw away 30$??

    Just starting to try my luck at edge maintenance and I thought this was the way to go...

    12000 grit natural whetstone for fine honing. 7.8" long | eBay

    Thanks, hope you can view it,

    Mike
    You never know, that's the thing about them...

    I have two and my second is way better than the first I bought. Inspired by this thread I honed a razor and sprayed on some 0.50 CBN on the "C12K" for the finishing, will be interesting to try out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blix View Post
    You never know, that's the thing about them...

    I have two and my second is way better than the first I bought. Inspired by this thread I honed a razor and sprayed on some 0.50 CBN on the "C12K" for the finishing, will be interesting to try out...
    Well, that's actually very cool, cuz then there is hope, right! heheh. Really for that much money, what have you got to lose? You might actually get a good stone. This guy claims one side is already lapped and chamfered (sp?), so I don't know if I should trust the lapping, but I have little choice. Next I'll get a lapping stone and I'll see how close it really was.

    Thanks for the answer! I've heard some very good things about these generic C12K's (I love the name, BTW). Can you tell me what a j-nat (japanese natural? maybe) is?

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhammer View Post
    Here is the link to my ebay purchase. Did I just throw away 30$??Mike
    Heck, no Mike, it is probably one of the best purchases in your straight razor collection, if you ask me! If it really is a 12K Chinese Natural (And it certainly looks like it in the photos) then I can almost guarantee you that you have bought a great hone for almost no money.

    I also see that the seller guarantees its performance, and will refund you the money if you are not happy with it. Give it a go, and you will probably be pleasantly surprised!

    Use the slurry stone to make a nice slurry, and thin it out with a couple drops of water as you go along, until you have almost no slurry left. Then rinse the hone, and try out some Chromium Oxide on the hone (as I described earlier in this thread) to really give you a superb edge.

    You can just lap the hone after you are done, and none of the CrOx will be left on the top of the hone.

    Enjoy it!
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    i used the c12k tonight to touch up the edge on my daily shaver

    i made a few laps with h2o and decided to try something different.... i put 3-4 drops of .5 micron diamond slurry i got from starshaving on evilbay... and went to town with slow steady laps *(1 layer of tape) as i made passes i could feel the edge smoothing out... more like dragging a squeegy across the stone than a razor.... i made ~60ish laps and headed for the bathroom..... it failed the HHT and i stropped it some more but still it failed the HHT... anyway i just lathered up and gave it a try.....

    what a pleasant surprise.... got a DFS on my neck *(which is as good as i ever get due to weird hair growth patterns on the neck) and BBS on the cheeks/mustache part of my face....

    this is something i will be repeating... the diamond slurry on the c12k brought it to another level..... i r happy...
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    We must be soooo lucky here in Australia ' cause I picked mine up for $15 (8" x 3" x 2") so I got a 6" x 2" x 1" ($10.00) and cut it up for slurry stones.
    It lapped fairly quickly using a sheet of 320 wet and dry on 1/2 glass.
    It makes such a lovely slurry - milky white and smooth as talc.
    I'm real happy with it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco664 View Post
    i put 3-4 drops of .5 micron diamond slurry i got from starshaving on evilbay... and went to town with slow steady laps *(1 layer of tape) as i made passes i could feel the edge smoothing out... more like dragging a squeegy across the stone than a razor....
    this is something i will be repeating... the diamond slurry on the c12k brought it to another level..... i r happy...
    Glad to hear you are getting great results out of your c12k! They really are some of the most under-appreciated hones out there.

    During experimenting I also tried the diamond spray on mine a couple months back, but I got the best results from using Chromium Oxide spray. Give it a go and you will be even more surprised!

    It seems to be a perfect combination to the Chinese natural hone, especially the ones from Guangxi province. I am guessing that the particle size of the CrOx is just filling up the grit pattern on the hone, thus creating the perfect surface for extremely good honing. I also tried it with some other natural hones of mine, but the results are the best by far on the C-Nat hone.

    It just seems to be the perfect combination...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferroburak View Post
    How does it compare with Müller's grindstone?
    I compared both hones, and posted about it here:

    Müller's Thuringian vs. Chinese Natural Hone
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    Leadingedge, I appreciate your methodology 110%. Sort of like a nice button down collar shirt; sharp, neat, understandable and very relative to the moment. alx
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