Thread: Naniwa Super Stone questions...

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Hey FP & welcome back.
Shame your DMT's are MIA. Don't get any faster & flatter than diamond plates for restore work. Tho the microchipping can be an issue with some razors. I usually swap out to my Shaptons GS after the DMT's. Don't find speed an issue with the Shaps but honing style could play a part. Hard to avoid some microchipping on the coarser stones but the next stone in line should deal with it. Good luck with whatever your choice

Hey Oz, good to hear from ya.

Yeah, I'm sure the DMT's will turn up, it's just a matter of sorting through the stacks of moving boxes.

I used to set the initial bevel with a DMT before moving on to the Shaptons, but as you mentioned, the micro chips caused by the DMT's on brittle blades were a bit of a pain.

The more I read about the Chosera's, the more I'm leaning in that direction. Hard to justify the cost, though.

Leaning toward getting a 1k Chosera, then 2k, 3k, 5k, 8k Super Stones, then a 10k Chosera.

I've read in a bunch of different places now that a lot of people feel that the finish of a Chosera 10k is better than the 12k Super Stone, and even better than the 16k Shapton GS.

Originally Posted by FloorPizza

I've read in a bunch of different places now that a lot of people feel that the finish of a Chosera 10k is better than the 12k Super Stone, and even better than the 16k Shapton GS.

I don't have one so I can't say. If you do an advanced search with Bart and with English as the posters and Chosera as the keyword you'll find what they thought of the 10k. I know English sold his shortly after giving glowing first impressions. IIRC Bart liked the cutting power and speed but soon gave it up for his beloved coticule honing. I think it was his preference for the feel of the edge off of the coticule as opposed to the 10k. I could never bring myself to go for the $ even when it was on sale every once in awhile. If you get one I'll be interested to see how it works for you.

Originally Posted by FloorPizza

Leaning toward getting a 1k Chosera, then 2k, 3k, 5k, 8k Super Stones, then a 10k Chosera.

It wouldn't be a significant savings overall, but you easily could skip the 3k in that progression.

I'd like to see some comparisons, Chosera vs Naniwa SS. Are the Chosera's superior to the Naniwa SS. I have a set of Nani, If I bought the Chosera's, would I be, Holy Sh*t, Where have these stones been all my life...?

From my perspective and I have honed a couple thousand razors on both the Chosera and Super Stone Naniwas, they are pretty comparable on performance. The Chosera is definitely a harder feeling stone. Although you can finish on the 10K Chosera, I find the finish off the Super Stone 12K to be less harsh feeling. They are both excellent cutters. I have worn out my Super Stone 1K and am not attempting to do the same on the Chosera. Betting that won't happen any time soon. Tis a much thicker stone. But........for the normal person honing razors, the Super Stones should also last you a life time. Actually, you really can't go wrong with either of these stones. The choice will be a personal one.

Have fun,

Lynn

Thanks Lynn, I was hoping you would chime in on this...

Originally Posted by Utopian

It wouldn't be a significant savings overall, but you easily could skip the 3k in that progression.

You could skip the 2K also. 1-5(or 3, but you don't need to do both)-8-finisher (optional) is a very common progression & is what most of us use. Nothing at all wrong w/ HAD , but you don't need every stone in a series for routine sharpening.

Originally Posted by PA23-250

You could skip the 2K also. 1-5(or 3, but you don't need to do both)-8-finisher (optional) is a very common progression & is what most of us use. Nothing at all wrong w/ HAD , but you don't need every stone in a series for routine sharpening.

I figured someone would point this out. I'll just say that I really like including a 2k after a 1k. Considering the common convention of each grit jump being doubled from the previous one, the 2k makes sense.

I think there are a bunch of stones out there that we don't use on razors that 'may' be applicable & in the 'budget' range compared to the Chosera eg the Bester & the Shapton Ha No Kuromaku ( JP version of the Pro series). I've used the Bester 2k & liked it a lot speed wise & durability wise except it needs a lot of soaking. I've also tried the 5k followed by 12k in the JP Shaps & loved that progression. Very fast & not the big jump I imagined. I'd need to do a lot more razors to really recommend them but I 'd certainly consider buying some if I wore out my GS stones. I wonder if anybody is using these regularly on razors ? Might start a new post in the honing section.