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    I experiment with mixing and matching my hones a lot. I really like the edge off the Shapton 16K Glass. I think using my Ohzuku or Asagi produces very nice results after it as does a couple of strokes on the Shapton 30K Glass.........

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    When using Japanese stones as a finisher, I like going as high as I can on the other hones I have first. Lately I've been going coticule---Nakayama Maruichi Asagi/Oozuku. I really like the feel of that progression, the coticule just makes things really smooth, kind preps the razor for a natural stone before using the JNAT.

    If I were going synthetics I would go as high a grit as possible before using a Japanese Natural meant for finishing a razor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disburden View Post
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    If I were going synthetics I would go as high a grit as possible before using a Japanese Natural meant for finishing a razor.
    This is how I tend to do it as well, I seem to get the very best results that way.
    I go as high as a 10K Chosera, a 12K Naniwa SS or a 15K Gokumyo before finishing on my JNats.

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    I'll throw my hat in the ring.
    I too enjoy a good coticule before my nakayama. It cuts fast and removes the Chosera scratches well before working up the nagura progression, but I'm experimenting with how far I can push the coticule dilution phase before jumping to the appropriate nagura, or even straight to tomonagura.

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    I think you have a ton of options available, as seen in this thread, but the real trick regardless, is to have the razor "Shave Ready" on your choice of "Polisher" before moving to your "Finisher"... No matter how you get there you always have to go up the ladder of Bevel, Sharpen, Polish, and Finish... What ladder you lean against the wall is your choice..

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    On most of the razors I experimented on, I test shaved off the Norton edge 1st just to double-confirm the edge was @ its best off of that stone. Definitely I've come to agree w/ the posters in this thread: the more refined the edge is before the Jnat, the better/less work needs to be done.

    I think, after looking @ lots of edges in the scope, I may have slightly overestimated my Oozuku's cutting speed. Max has said that a slow finisher is often a fine finisher & mine is extremely fine, so I think a good prepolishing is in order 1st.

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    Yes, as a general rule I think the expectation should be that a fine stone will generally be a slower stone for obvious reasons, although the converse is certainly not true in all cases. But, relatively speaking, there are "fast" finishers out there too. I think these might be the ones that you'd expect to pay higher for...

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    This discussion has me watching the Sigma 13k thread rather closely, I have to say...

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