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    Purchased some French hones a while ago.

    One is a purple stone with a beautiful structure mounted in a wooden box.

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    The label says “Pierre de Lorraine Rouge”. I have read somewhere in the forum that there is a coticule layer named Lorraine, but I am unsure if this is a coticule. It has purple slurry and is a fine stone.

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    The second hone is a slate stone with a bluish grey polished shining, like metal.

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    It has rough saw marks on the side that I have not seen with other stones. It is not a Thuringian and I don’t think it is a welsh slate. From what I have seen on some pictures it could be a “La Lune” -special stone for good razors- but I am not sure. It came without label. I got a comparable smaller stone in a wooden box. This one is 18x4 cm.

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    Would greatly appreciate any opinion and suggestions on the stones!
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    Beautiful stones, thank you for sharing. Let us know what you think of the edges...
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    The first one looks just like a Goldfisch Wetzstein/ Fox Razor Hone. The second one does indeed look like my Special Stone, which has similar sawmarks.

    Nice finds.
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    The first stone "Pierre de la Lorraine Rouge" is a stone found in the Lorraine region in France not a Coticule, it is also in the Vosgienne region,
    Jean- Jacques Perret, in his book "La Pogonotomie" written in 1770 talks briefly about these stone, and is conclusion is that some are suitable for razors and some are not. You will also find the stone to be a very popular scythe stone usually found with a wooden holder. According to the label it is Fine, Smooth And Bitting,and it can be used with oil or water, cant read the last line on the label.
    The second stone sure does resemble the La lune special stone for razors, the saw marks and especially the shiny or sparkling on it is very common to these stones.

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    The second one does look like my Special Stone
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    the nr. 2 ist a "La Lune Stone" I have this Stone. very rare and expensive...so 300-500$.....He works with oil and a Siliciumcarbit Ston for mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin103 View Post
    The first stone "Pierre de la Lorraine Rouge" is a stone found in the Lorraine region in France not a Coticule, it is also in the Vosgienne region,
    Jean- Jacques Perret, in his book "La Pogonotomie" written in 1770 talks briefly about these stone, and is conclusion is that some are suitable for razors and some are not. You will also find the stone to be a very popular scythe stone usually found with a wooden holder. According to the label it is Fine, Smooth And Bitting,and it can be used with oil or water, cant read the last line on the label.
    The second stone sure does resemble the La lune special stone for razors, the saw marks and especially the shiny or sparkling on it is very common to these stones.
    That's very interesting, thanks a lot for the comment.
    I didn't know the literature you mentioned but found some remarks on the Lorraine stones in the "Traité de Mineralogie" from 1837.

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    Since my french is not the best, I read it that way, that the Lorraine rouge stones are a general type of courser sandstone like stones. Anyway, this would fit to your comment about the scythe stones.
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    As you also noted that they talk about "Pierre a Aiguiser"= sharpening stone, and also the red sandstone is used in other application, grinded,
    turned into dust and molded then cooked for different sharpening applications. The next chapter wich you dont have posted is for "pierre a Polir"
    or Polishing stones. In these old french book, when they use "pierre a rasoirs" Razor stone refers to Coticule, Perret in his book got a whole chapter on Coticules and their uses and how to use them.
    Did you lap and used this stone yet?

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    I have lapped it, but didn't hone a razor with it yet.
    It is indeed a very fine stone, so I suppose it is usable for straight razor honing. To which extend, I will report as soon as I have tested it.
    I will compare to my thuringians and some coarser natural stones to see, how it would fit in.
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    reminding me of my glittering stone that I sold off because I didnt know any better. Making me sad. *sigh*

    Jealous jealous jealous.

    Your gonna love that stone once you get it down!
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