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    I recently acquired an Imperia La Roccia 12k-15k I believe it's their premium. Now I have only used this stone 2x once with slurry which seems to cause microchips and once without. The without slurry I have not test shaved as of yet so I can not yet share my thoughts.
    My progression was as follows, 1k,2k,5k,8k kuromaku then ILR. I did not count strokes but it was alot compared to my 12k naniwa. Looking under my pocket scope reveals a less than polished edge and misc. Stria not straight uniform stria I am used to seeing.
    On a FB page it was suggested to use the hone under running faucet and light strokes. Just curious of any thoughts on here. I know from research these homes are not highly thought of but price was cheap, used. Thanks in advance.
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    From what I have heard about those stones is that they are hit or miss. I think if I were to use one of those maybe some strokes under lightly running water

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    I've never used the ILR and never will.

    You mentioned that it was not well thought of here. I don't really remember so much of a negative opinion as a fairly neutral opinion. The only negative opinion that I recall was in the deceptive behavior of the seller.

    The only time that I see any benefit to honing under running water, despite how much it is pushed in a couple of videos, is when you have a hone that quickly auto-slurries and the water helps to clear away the released grit. I'm not aware of any decent finishing stone that needs to be used under running water. Given the way this hone is described, I don't imagine that it would be quick to release slurry. For that reason, I'm not sure that honing under running water would be of much benefit.

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    Wouldn't it be great if you actually knew what it was ???

    You know

    Slate
    Schist
    Sedimentary
    Noviculite
    Etc Etc Etc


    Just me being my contrarian self
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    I'm just going to leave this here...make of it what you will:



    I will say this, the video above is one reason I've no plans to pick up an ILR.

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    On the Glen being helpful side

    I have tried maybe 7 different ILR at the meets

    They are a solid MEH !!!! I seriously doubt it's ability to beat the Naniwa 12k edge


    Full disclosure: Whenever people selling the Stones start hyping the Grit number as they start raising the price of the stone I tend to get Hypercritical...
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    Utopian, my research was not only of this forum but several areas, I do agree the general consensus here was the seller not the stone. I see your point though. Also as far as I can see it doesn't auto slurry at all.
    Gssixgun, it would be neat to know what this stone actually is! lol, but I don't I know what the box says which isn't much. I'm not a rock hound, but my guess by looking is slate of some sort.
    Marshal, I did watch this video. Very informative, i can see why he was not thrilled with this hone. I simply have it as a trial and gateway into natural stones one day. If anything I'll use it for pocket knives
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    On the Glen being helpful side

    I have tried maybe 7 different ILR at the meets

    They are a solid MEH !!!! I seriously doubt it's ability to beat the Naniwa 12k edge


    Full disclosure: Whenever people selling the Stones start hyping the Grit number as they start raising the price of the stone I tend to get Hypercritical...
    I went into this as a see for myself deal. I know and understand why it's impossible to truly grit a natural stone. And so far I agree, this is a well, it's not the worst thing in the world kind of deal. Since I'm not used to natural stones just thought maybe a bit of guidance may shed better light. You guys are all great and I appreciate the comments
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    Try it all

    Slurry, no Slurry, Water, Smith's

    Oil?

    see what you get..

    The best I got out of one was using the Smith's Honing solution with a couple drops of water to thin it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Try it all

    Slurry no Slurry, Water, Smith's

    Oil?

    see what you get..

    The best I got out of one was using the Smith's Honing solution with a couple drops of water to thin it out
    I believe I have that, I'll give it a go and see what happens. Thank you
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