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    Now I understand why there's so many high heeled razors on the bay.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTV4ph1LE3c
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    This video is 5 years old. We've already been through the pros and cons.

    Mr. Carter even made a follow up video explaining his methodology after a challenge from Brad (undream22). Then Tom Blodgett from Jende Industries made a massive blog post about this method with high level magnification.

    This method does work with tweaking, to each honer's needs. I.e. with skill and knowing what you're doing is critical or yes it could lead to a high heel.

    There are sides that think this method is assbackwards and those that think it's a new way of doing things.

    I have been playing with this method for a few days actually.

    2 ready for a test shave tonight.

    Blaming one man (an ABS master bladesmith) for other's inability to hone a razor is unfair to him.









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    Ooo...this is gonna be atreat for you....

    https://scienceofsharp.wordpress.com...ination-stone/

    Thank me later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovidiucotiga View Post
    Ooo...this is gonna be atreat for you....

    https://scienceofsharp.wordpress.com...ination-stone/

    Thank me later...
    Todd couldn't pull it off. Once again technique vs tools. Read his end comment...

    Murray's first video was edited.

    When you post something assume that person has already read what you're presenting.

    Thanks for doing a terrible job of trying to once again disprove a proven method.


    "The above results should not be generalized to predict the capabilities of this sharpening technique."

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    I am sorry I upset you...
    That was not my intention.
    I have no way of knowing what you have read and read not before.

    Judjing by that algorithm you should asume I already knew you had an inflamable temper and I did this just to upset you...
    That's not a correct way of thinking or treating people.

    I just spent 30minutes of my life re reading the test and coments....again...came to the same conclusion.
    ..MC is a nice guy that makes great stuff...his technique may work for some people with moderate expectations...not my cup of tea...there are more civilised ways of dooing things...but hell to each his own...do what makes you happy...
    Just dont make other people feel bad about trying to help.
    ...and mind that temper....I see you edited the post.

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    It didn't upset me at all. It was actually a treat for me as you'd say.

    Where you are wrong is saying "may work" and "moderate expectations".

    I read this as either you cannot achieve or do not want to achieve great results with a tweaked variation of this method. Dismissing it as uncivilized is quite the cop out blanket statement.

    Reading the results of a single man's test is different from actually doing something. Do you believe everything you read no questions asked?


    "...and mind that temper...." who are you again?





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    You know what the stupid thing is...I started writing a reply to the person that started the thread.
    Before I found the link...it took me a while as I have not read the whole story for some years...you got to post...and mine came straight after that...then your response.

    So bad timing...
    Aniway..to answer your question...
    Nobody...i'm nobody.
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    If you're razors are nothing but a "tool", where the idea of wearing them down and eventually just tossing them is your thing, then his method is probably fine.

    Would I take a pristine Wade & Butcher, or a Mappin Bros., Lancet Edge razor, a fine Tamahagane Japanese razor, or any other fine razors and perform that sharpening technique on them...not in a million years.

    And his claim that tape, completely destroys the geometry of a razor has been debunked many times.

    I was also taught to treat my tools with respect, and they in turn will provide me with years and years of service.

    I can't see how "grinding" away at a razor the way he does shows much respect for the tool...but as always, if it works for him and others, fair enough.

    But I can't just help but wonder, what would a virtually NOS vintage Sheffield blade look like when he was done with it...think there'd be some spine wear / damage???

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    You could have just said that from the start instead of asking me to adjust my choice of words. We would have had quite a different conversation.

    Anyways ill leave this here.


    https://jendeindustries.wordpress.co...unding-debate/


    And

    I'm not sure what to say about this.

    Incase you are generally interested in this topic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    "If you're razors are nothing but a "tool", where the idea of wearing them down and eventually just tossing them is your thing, then his method is probably fine."

    This depends on how this method is utilized. In the original video he knocks the edge right off his razor and hones from the bottom up. I'll explain this further down.

    "I was also taught to treat my tools with respect, and they in turn will provide me with years and years of service.

    I can't see how "grinding" away at a razor the way he does shows much respect for the tool...but as always, if it works for him and others, fair enough."

    I have seen conventional razor honers set a bevel "grind" with similar technique or a lower grit hone. That initial grind on the 1k is to set the bevel, not unlike what we all do before we start refining the edge.


    "But I can't just help but wonder, what would a virtually NOS vintage Sheffield blade look like when he was done with it...think there'd be some spine wear / damage???"

    If he went back to 1k every time he sharpened then it would unquestionably wear at a rate that far exceeds the conventional methods. He has stated he doesn't drop to 1k unless he needs to. So essentially he would be touching up on a 6k and newspaper or chromium oxide loaded strop. There are many people who touch up on pasted strops.
    Just a few thoughts on your thoughts. Ymmv and all that fun pointless stuff we bicker about here.

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