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    Thx. So then I will go back to Coticule and 8k before finishing again.

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    Do yo have a loupe?

    I suggest you get one, they are very inexpensive and can let you see the edge and what is happening. Micro chips were mentioned, they will give you the rough feel you are describing.
    If they are there, you will have to hone down the edge past where the steel has degraded.

    Also could be your stropping as mentioned as well. It is a very fine line to get a proper smooth edge to shave with.

    Good luck
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    I always hone flipping each stroke

    I have a loupe 20x juwelers loupe and a 60x cheap one from eBay with led light and always look at my edges
    but to say that it tells me something
    I only see if the edge is straight , and that is the case
    plus it looks nice polished
    not too many scratches from rougher stones

    is it possible to see micro chpping or a fin with these enlargements ??

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    Look at the edge after you feel the toughness of the shave. Then see what the dye looks like. You may not see micro chips after honing.
    Look sharp and smell nice for the ladies.~~~Benz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseld View Post
    Look at the edge after you feel the toughness of the shave. Then see what the dye looks like. You may not see micro chips after honing.
    what do you mean by the dye
    the color / shade of the bevel after shaving and before stropping ??

    I studied my stropping and it looks like I do it right
    but am gonna concentrate on it better anyway

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    Just to clarify some terms


    Bevel = The sides of the very end of the blade, the sides of the bevel come together to form the Edge aka Fin

    Fin = The very very very end of the bevel, the actual cutting edge of the blade

    Smooth vs Sharp

    Any edge that comes together can be "Sharp" not all are "Smooth"

    I have said this dozen of time "A trained monkey can get a razor "Sharp" it takes a little talent to get it Sharp and Smooth"

    Let me illustrate

    This is "sharp" also, and if you think about the very "Fin" looking like this under High Magnification you understand the difference between Sharp and Smooth

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    The Edge has to be Sharp, Even, and Smooth, and it will feel good on the face
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    I understand these terms well.
    But is this visible under 20x magnification or 60x ?
    As my edge looks quite straight. I compare it with well honed razors and see no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
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    This is "sharp" also, and if you think about the very "Fin" looking like this under High Magnification you understand the difference between Sharp and Smooth

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    ,,,

    Glen, did Sharptonn hone that razor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFuMi View Post
    I understand these terms well.
    But is this visible under 20x magnification or 60x ?
    As my edge looks quite straight. I compare it with well honed razors and see no difference.
    If you are "Feeling" a difference, that is what matters.


    Visual is only one input to honing,

    If I were in your shoes I would do the Step Challenge and see what you find (hehe just saw the pun in there)


    Set the bevel Strop 20 laps on just leather and test shave
    try the same at mid-level
    try the same at pre-finisher
    finally at Finisher

    Normally these are considered to be ABOUT 1-4-8- Finish

    This lets you learn what each level brings to the edge and how to get the most out of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    Glen, did Sharptonn hone that razor?
    Shots fired!
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