Troubles with my 3K

RHensley

Resident Hand Model
My Naniwa Super Stone 3K has gotten to where it cuts less than my 5K. When Honing I use the 1-3-5-8-12K naniwa super stones and the 3 feels like it cuts less metal off the blade than the 5K. I keep the stones clean with the diamond plate and every now and then I use the wet dry 400 sand paper. I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem with a stone and if so how they fixed it. If there is a bad spot in the stone.
 

Lou Mowan

Snake River Razors, Admin
Staff member
Never experienced that but simple solution is just go from 1k to 5k. That's all I have ever done 1K 5K 8K 12K
 
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jaro1069

Administrator
Staff member
have you thought of switching them around until you figure it out? IE. 1-5-3-8-12
If the 5 cuts quicker than the 3 just use the 5 before the 3? maybe its just a layer of stone thats not the grit it should be and when you get through that layer you could switch them back..
 

drmoss_ca

Is there a Doctor in the house ?
This is why I discovered my original Naniwa set was convex! They just seemed to stop working properly, so I did what seemed reasonable - I got out my Shapton DGLP and started to take off the top layer, which resulted in elliptical areas of newly exposed substrate being exposed in the middle of each hone, and which slowly grew as I worked away. The sad thing was that those hones never worked very well after that, yet I remembered them working extremely well before I lapped away that top layer. Maybe my response was over the top, but I bought a whole new set (SRD probably liked that!) and they worked as expected. I have refrained from lapping the new set in any way.
It appears to me from my limited experience that lapping these hones with a diamond plate changes the remaining exposed surface into something smooth that declines to cut. Were I to do it again, I'd probably try to lap each with the Naniwa below it (3k with 1k, 5k with 3k etc). I may be wrong about all of this, but there is something going on that makes these man-made ceramics not behave as they did when sold after having their surfaces altered. You may think you are refreshing them, but you end up altering them. Great hones, but beware of this. As I said, I might be quite wrong in generalising my experience to all, but that's what happened to me.
 

Bogie

I'm not looking at you !
I have had good results with Shapton water stones. Economy options would a be Norton. The lower grit Nortons are pretty good options. After about 4k I think there are better options than Norton. IMHO
 
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