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03-14-2017, 05:06 AM #11
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- Oct 2005
- Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
The British use the terms fire or electric fire to mean a fireplace, hearth, wood burning stove, electric fireplace.
It's kind of how Canadians talk about hot water heaters. The rest of the world shakes their head, wondering why anyone would want to buy a water heater to heat hot water.....
Then of course there is the term UN Thaw... which technically means to freeze something. You either thaw something or you freeze it.
Back to the op's thoughts. Do not underestimate the power of peers, advertising and general marketing bs. The masses do not wish to think, they prefer to be told what to do while thinking they have freedom of choice and then complain bitterly that *someone* should do something about whatever it is they have finally discovered is nonsense.
They have been told, and believe, it must be "modern" or it's no good.... and besides, what do OLD people know? They are "past it".
Just look at the environmentally friendly crap we're being told. Do not repair "old things", do not maintain "old things", buy the latest high tech tomfoolery. How a half a dozen electric razors are supposed to be more environmentally friendly than one or two 19th century steel blades, a rock dug out of the ground to hone them on, a strip of hide off an old farm animal that is no longer alive to strop them on, and they will last a hundred years or more again, is beyond me. But.... you will get an argument from most young people that we just don't know what we are talking about.
I don't mean to infer that ALL young people are like that, but far too many appear to be incapable of thinking for themselves and act like sheep.... with someone all to happy to be the shepherd and lead them down the path of financial slaughter.
Kaptain "Depressed about the future" Zero
Of course, after re-reading the first post, I see the general idea is more about the Shavette razor... a barbers tool, for trimming things like the nape of the neck. It eventually got pressed into use for shaving due to the rise of blood born diseases and our knowledge of them. In all honesty the shavette does not really work well for that purpose, they are cheaply made of flimsy folded steel and use equally flimsy blades. A skilled barber can do wonders with them, but for someone trying to shave himself for the first time with an open blade.... I'd suggest they look elsewhere.
The Feather Artist Club razor is made for shaving and it is an excellent tool. The blades are stiff, sharp and smooth. If a gent does not wish to spend time honing a razor, I think it's a reasonable alternative. Not everyone likes to collect postage stamps, or other such pastimes. Even in days gone by, the average gent would take his razor to the barber for honing... he had no choice, as he had neither the time, nor the money a quality hone would cost. It's this very reason that King Camp Gillette was so successful with his "Safety Razor" and it's replaceable, low cost blades.
I feel the shaving experience with any single blade razor, when done properly, is superior to that of any electric or multi bladed cartridge razor. I have used most of them but once I mastered the traditional safety razor, the Feather Artist Club and last but not least, the traditional straight razor, I would never consider going back. But just because I enjoy it, does not mean that every living and breathing man on this planet must do the same.
And, as the OP mentions, I think for those who are not interested in the whole straight razor thing, a quality safety style razor is probably the best route to take... surely better than dealing with a flimsy shavette type razor.
Last edited by kaptain_zero; 03-14-2017 at 05:32 AM."Aw nuts, now I can't remember what I forgot!" --- Kaptain "Champion of lost causes" Zero
03-14-2017, 07:47 AM #12
An electrical fire stems from bad wiring..or faulty components...Maruka Kingpin of England
03-14-2017, 04:06 PM #13
I liked the idea of shaving with a shavette before spending lots of money on my equipment it gave me an idea of what it was like to hold a straight razor and ultimately use one.
Now that being said, IMO it is not fair to compare straights and shavettes. This is like comparing apples and oranges. The thin blade used in a shavette is different than the edge you will have on a straight even a hollow ground. Although the blade is backed so to speak by the holding mechanism it is still flexible and IMO more flexible than a straight. Second the angle at which a shavette is held to your face is different than a straight as far as I found. I find that my shavette would bite me easier than any straight I have used to date.
All in all I think for the similarities which are basically looks and general handling it is a great way to say yes this is for me or nah I am not into this and will spend no more money. Looking back I am glad I tried it but I have not used my shavette in ages and it is in my work locker just in case I have a crazy hair or two that I missed.Nothing is fool proof, to a sufficiently talented fool...
03-14-2017, 05:07 PM #14
I was thinking razor burn from an electricKeep it safe and Cheers,
03-14-2017, 09:40 PM #15
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- Oct 2005
- Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
I just watch Escape to the Country on a cable channel... it took me a while to figure out all those references to "fire" that made no sense to me.
I'm still perplexed by the term "Inglenook" fire. I'm still not sure if it is a reference to a specific manufacturer of cast iron stoves or if it is a style of hearth?!?!
Christian"Aw nuts, now I can't remember what I forgot!" --- Kaptain "Champion of lost causes" Zero
03-15-2017, 06:48 AM #16
03-15-2017, 05:03 PM #17
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- Oct 2014
- San Diego, California
Electric Fire is to Wood Fire as Shavette is to a Straight?
Anyway, I think it is good advice to start wet shaving with a solid safety/DE razor. You learn so much that helps with straights later. I used a DE for several years, then came across this site and went crazy a couple years ago. I use one of my straights almost every day. I have had a Feather SS for a few months now, and can say that it is an engineering and design marvel. It is also dangerously sharp, and I would have been ill-advised to have tried it before I tried a regular straight razor. That being said, one should do what one wants, and will probably be fine. Dive right into whatever you want to dive into, and if you work at it carefully, you'll likely learn how to produce great shaves.
03-16-2017, 01:06 AM #18
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- Jan 2016
'Electric Fire is to Wood Fire as Shavette is to a Straight?'
That's it, thank you. Again I emphasise I am not being critical here, I just struggle to see where these might be preferable to a DE as a daily all-round shaver. If you are going disposable the DE seems the perfect choice. Just my opinion and I'm happy to be corrected.
Last edited by TomP30; 03-16-2017 at 01:12 AM.