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    Default Too heavy of draw damaging edge?

    Is that possible that a overly heavy draw could damage the edge of the razor?

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    Sort of IMHO

    I don't think it is actually the "Draw" I think it is the draw causes you to strop badly...

    Anyway that is what I have noticed at the meet ups when helping the newer guys, their stropping technique improves drastically when you move them to a slicker draw


    YMMV and all that,,, as I have no way of proving it hehehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Sort of IMHO

    I don't think it is actually the "Draw" I think it is the draw causes you to strop badly...

    Anyway that is what I have noticed at the meet ups when helping the newer guys, their stropping technique improves drastically when you move them to a slicker draw


    YMMV and all that,,, as I have no way of proving it hehehe
    Got it, the main strop I have has such draw that it does pull the razor away from my hand! I have honed many razors that finish with wonderfully clean and straight edges then I strop and there ends up being some flashing at the apex???
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    I had a strop with a really heavy draw, and I ended up tilting the razor and rolling my edge a couple of times! I like a medium draw for some feedback but definitely avoid the really heavy ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie1980 View Post
    I had a strop with a really heavy draw, and I ended up tilting the razor and rolling my edge a couple of times! I like a medium draw for some feedback but definitely avoid the really heavy ones.
    My edges still remain sharp though? When you would roll the edge would it kill the edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Sort of IMHO

    I don't think it is actually the "Draw" I think it is the draw causes you to strop badly...

    Anyway that is what I have noticed at the meet ups when helping the newer guys, their stropping technique improves drastically when you move them to a slicker draw


    YMMV and all that,,, as I have no way of proving it hehehe
    Got to take this for what it is worth...I still consider myself a "SR infant" (just hit my 14 month mark).
    I am a reasonably intelligent guy that is rather persistent about researching my interests.

    IMHO Glen nails it. Taking it as a given that you're stropping on a quality substrate IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR TECHNIQUE.

    I don't consider myself a "Strop Master", but I do proudly admit after concentrating on my technique from the beginning I do maintain and refine/smooth a pretty mean edge. Or I should say I find my shaves comfortable from an edge aspect. Still working on my shaving angles/skills.

    I owe it all to the advice of Marty, reading (and listening) to posts from guys like Glen, Tc, Utopian, and watching the Vids on the Stroptober thread. I love that thread.

    ***Disclamer***There's a lot of you guys that have helped me both with one on one conversations and by my reading your posts (thanks by the way). The above mentions specific fellas that have directly influenced my stropping even though they didn't know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    Got to take this for what it is worth...I still consider myself a "SR infant" (just hit my 14 month mark).
    I am a reasonably intelligent guy that is rather persistent about researching my interests.

    IMHO Glen nails it. Taking it as a given that you're stropping on a quality substrate IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR TECHNIQUE.

    I don't consider myself a "Strop Master", but I do proudly admit after concentrating on my technique from the beginning I do maintain and refine/smooth a pretty mean edge. Or I should say I find my shaves comfortable from an edge aspect. Still working on my shaving angles/skills.

    I owe it all to the advice of Marty, reading (and listening) to posts from guys like Glen, Tc, Utopian, and watching the Vids on the Stroptober thread. I love that thread.

    ***Disclamer***There's a lot of you guys that have helped me both with one on one conversations and by my reading your posts (thanks by the way). The above mentions specific fellas that have directly influenced my stropping even though they didn't know it.

    Cheers
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    I am not by any means new to stropping nor honing nor straight shaving. I have read that in stropping the leather grabs the edge and pull it into shape however I am asking can that leather be sticky enough to to pull the edge like taffy??? Thank you for your comment!
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    I have a small paddle strop with oiled Russian leather lined with a felt support. Lots of draw there, forcing me to slow down and add significant pressure during the pass, particularly as the surface is very slightly concave. So it ends up a kind of stropping rolling X-stroke. At first, I was doing a significant number of laps, the result being that I would quickly wreck the edge. More recently, I've cut back significantly, maybe 10-20 laps at most, and this seems to be working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshaves View Post
    I am not by any means new to stropping nor honing nor straight shaving. I have read that in stropping the leather grabs the edge and pull it into shape however I am asking can that leather be sticky enough to to pull the edge like taffy??? Thank you for your comment!
    Hmmmm Good question

    I don't know the answer, we know from Micrographs that the stropping does lessen the effect of the Beard dinging the edge, maybe one of the Metalmeisters can say more about it I am pretty sure you are talking about "Plasicity" and I just don't know enough about it to answer
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    I am testing several strops from a well known maker and the Roo strop to me has a heavy draw that causes the razor to almost be pulled from my hand but not on all razors so i can honestly see where a heavy draw could affect an edge with bad stropping, I don't believe a faster or slower draw gives a better edge I do believe correct stropping on either is what does it.
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