View Poll Results: What is your preferred fix for imperfect geometry?

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  • Heavy honing

    4 25.00%
  • Re-grinding

    4 25.00%
  • Rolling X-Strokes

    3 18.75%
  • Something else

    6 37.50%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atchbo View Post
    Thanks, guys. I honed the bejesus out of this razor to try to get it all worked out.

    In the end, I managed to get a lot of hone wear and some flat surfaces, but I think I ground harder I to the heel spine than the toe spine on one side so I have a new problem. C'est la vie.

    I needed diamond to work through all the steel though, after trying all the stones from 1200 through 8000 and a coticule and a phig with some mystery nagura. In the end, I got through the wedgy metal with diamond psa sheets on flat marble tile (15 micron down to .5 micron) and a lot of elbow grease and swarf.

    However, one of the slurries (I reckon) has the edge slightly worn in from the plane of the bevel and resulted in a useless shave. The irony is that this blade was wicked sharp before the 'repair'. Oh well. Maybe I'll learn a little more from this blade yet.

    Thanks for the ideas!
    How many razors have you honed successfully? I ask this because I have a feeling that you should store that razor away and wait until you truly know what you are doing. My reason to coming to this conclusion is you state the heavy hone wear...a new honer should always learn to hone with tape to save the spine from hone wear. I didn't participate in your poll because every razor has it's own personality and must be honed "how the razor needs it". No different than how you are going to drive your automobile or if I gave you the keys to my Suburban, you would drive them differently or hop a lot of curbs. Tape is your friend & perfecting a rolling x stroke is something you must learn if you wish to continue honing as it's your friend and a mainstay in honing.
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    Ouch!!!! Looks like a lot of steel is now gone forever, sad it looks like a nice blade. Tc
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    Yep. Went through quite a lot of steel. To be honest, I don't think my grind was perfect, so this may have been necessary, although I may have gone through more steel than the pros to get it sharp. I had a high shoulder, and was determined to level it out, which is why I ground so far (and why I used the DMT220 so much). I also don't have a DMT325.

    As for my track record, I have honed my W&B 3-4 times, sharpened a few ebay test razors to nice shaving condition, and another homemade blade or two (one that a friend uses and says it's sharper than his other Dovos). In any case, I think I may regrind this razor to minimize the look of the hone wear (make the spine and bevels narrower). I love the shape of this blade... it started out as a trace of my W&B but I embelished a bit along the way, and it's probably 1/8" or more larger in all dimensions than my W&B. My next task is to try again and make smaller blades and deeper hollows. Still need to slow down my belt for that though. The Grizzly is a beast for fine work.

    Thanks for all your suggestions, folks! This is all a bit like fly fishing. I only wish I'd started 20 years earlier!
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    gssixgun, I like this reply but feel it is out of reach for a lot of us, those of us who are not professionals and who have not honed hundreds of blades and will never hone hundreds of blade. Your reply is kind of Zen and I get it but for a lot of us new to the stones I would say: if you are in over your head, reach out to your mentor if you have one if not.....fine a razor with fewer problems, or send it out. Compared to sharpening a knife honing a razor is a breeze....until you find a problem razor and just identifying the problem is a problem.....thanks to you and many others we have vast resources here and a lot of nice helpful people. So 'doing what the razor tells me to do' is most likely unattainable for most of us. Many thanks for your time and videos and I believe your sincere interest in this worthy and fascinating pursuit. QUOTE=gssixgun;1385228]Honestly

    The fix is directly related to the issue at hand, so I read the blade, then apply the fix that will do the least amount of damage and still correct the issue...

    So pretty much the answer is "I do what the razor tells me to do" that way I am not fighting the edge but rather working with it.[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by WW243 View Post
    gssixgun, I like this reply but feel it is out of reach for a lot of us, those of us who are not professionals and who have not honed hundreds of blades and will never hone hundreds of blade. Your reply is kind of Zen and I get it but for a lot of us new to the stones I would say: if you are in over your head, reach out to your mentor if you have one if not.....fine a razor with fewer problems, or send it out. Compared to sharpening a knife honing a razor is a breeze....until you find a problem razor and just identifying the problem is a problem.....thanks to you and many others we have vast resources here and a lot of nice helpful people. So 'doing what the razor tells me to do' is most likely unattainable for most of us. Many thanks for your time and videos and I believe your sincere interest in this worthy and fascinating pursuit.



    Yeah you might be right it is a rather "Zen" answer but what do expect from a guy that has been a Martial Arts instructor for over 40 years

    The solutions have been clearly delineated all over SRP from the MM test, to using tape to buffer the effects of a mis-ground razor, the real problem is impatience but nobody wants to hear that, they want the fast and dirty fix to their immediate problem, usually like this thread started without even the assistance of pics..


    This I feel was particularly well stated by you, and deserves to be repeated... (Emphasis is mine )

    "If you are in over your head, STOP reach out to your mentor if you have one, if not STOP find a Mentor or a razor with fewer problems, STOP or send it out to have it accessed.

    Just identifying the problem is a problem for most people .....

    Grinding the crap out of a razor STOP !!!!

    Hitting the "Stone/Hone" Wall and Climbing over


    Also we need to keep in mind that the OP was talking about a home built razor, which I admit I sure didn't catch on to until much later in the thread, which would have maybe change the whole direction of the thread from the beginning.. Again few pics would have helped in the first post

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